April 18, 2007 at 1:29 pm #3730
Assuming that the countries have training slots, outside of the comp times, when is the boating public allowed access?
Not asking about the actual competition rounds, but the training slots and other free times.
Im just thinking Sharky, that letting joe-paddlers know when they can access the wave, might be a nice touch, and you may end up with fewer disapointed paddlers (or joes mixed with pros during training slots). Can the public paddle it any time the comp isnt going?
Maybe keep a couple hours a day for public access? Just asking…
[i:1d84w2kl]Please everyone, dont make this into a debate about public right to the river and all that. We’ve been through it already.[/i:1d84w2kl]April 18, 2007 at 1:40 pm #25671Capn CrunchParticipant
[quote:1kgn08u4]Please everyone, dont make this into a debate about public right to the river and all that. We’ve been through it already.[/quote:1kgn08u4]
Then why ask the question? The courtesy is not coming from a group allowing access to a public feature. It exists in the fact that the paddling public are tolerating the use of a public feature to some group’s benefit.
The organizers would be well advised to make room for average-joes in the schedule. So the question isn’t if, but when…. If they do accommodate the average-joes , then average-joes should be wise enough to acknowledge the efforts and respect the times. If the courtesy is not extended by the organizers, I doubt that average-joes will care about any disruptions they cause when they access the wave at a time convenient for themselves.
–CCApril 18, 2007 at 2:59 pm #25672cboaterParticipant
When is this event, is there something going on at Bussy this weekend? Would like to spectate, so would like to know if there’s gonna be a crowd to watch.
Mike.April 18, 2007 at 3:07 pm #25673Lizard365Participant
This weekend level six cup at champlain, next weekend worlds is going on at bus eater hopefullyApril 18, 2007 at 3:16 pm #25674
Capn Crunch: That was what I was driving at. You got it.
CBoater: Level Six cup is THIS weekend (21/22) and the Worlds are the following weekend onward. I dont think anyone has posted about the spectating logistics yet.
Edited to correct date.
p.April 18, 2007 at 3:44 pm #25675vikingParticipant
The Level 6 cup is this weekend…see post.
I noticed a post on Jacksonkayak.com that talks about the buseater release for the worlds…April 18, 2007 at 5:38 pm #25676ThomLModerator
If you’re asking Sharky’s permission, then I can’t help you. If you are asking generally "can we paddle when the comp isn’t happening?", then the answer is yes. It’s a public space. If you’re willing to line-up with the pros, then you have every right to paddle there.April 18, 2007 at 5:44 pm #25677cmnypnyParticipant
This is my personal opinion only.
My view would be that they could not stop you from paddling the Ottawa as it is a "Parks Ontario designated whitewater" park.
Yes you would probably get yelled at and called a 2ssh0le, $h1thead, wanker, given the finger, etc but there is really nothing they could do about it legally.
But I do agree with Phitty that out of general courtesy WT should post the training schedule in order not to piss off the general boating public. I know Bussy is normally only in for a short time but I am sure then general public will try and work with the competitors in a non combative way.
I know WT will probably come back and say everyone has been given due notice about the event but hey it is not their personal river.April 18, 2007 at 6:05 pm #25678
Let me rephrase:
[b:fcibm4w8]I want to paddle MiniB at a time that doesnt interfere with the competition. Sharky, when will that be? [/b:fcibm4w8]
PS: The answer is not "Once the World’s are done".
And, Matt & Joe K know full well that a fair number of people are coming to watch, many from out of town, so it would be great to allow them to surf Bussy a few times. They – and their tourist dollars – might just come back next year!April 18, 2007 at 6:41 pm #25679Ray-CParticipant"ThomL":ioeok2ml wrote:It’s a public space. If you’re willing to line-up with the pros, then you have every right to paddle there.[/quote:ioeok2ml]
Except someone must own the rope.April 18, 2007 at 7:45 pm #25680BobbieParticipant"Phitty":1ax3gqs8 wrote:[b:1ax3gqs8]I want to paddle MiniB at a time that doesnt interfere with the competition. Sharky, when will that be? [/b:1ax3gqs8]
PS: The answer is not "Once the World’s are done".
I’ve considered heading out to Beachburg to watch the World’s, but my issue is that I’ve never surfed mini-Bus, and I’ve always wanted to. It seems totally ludicrous for me to drive all the way from Toronto when mini-Bus is in, and not get on it once! I’m sure I would enjoy watching the comp, and I respect that the competitors need to prepare, but if I drive 5 hours to get there, you better believe my boat will be on the roof!
It’d be cool if they designated a public surf time… It might be a Gong-Show, but at least I could watch the World’s knowing I had a chance to get in my boat and try mini-Bus….. Even if it’s like 12pm to 1pm, or even 7am to 8am or something like that….. Even if the line is like 30 people, at least everyone will get one surf to quench their thirst…..
It’d be amusing for spectators too… Y’know… Watch the amateur Gong-Show… See people get trashed, and show you why pros are pros, and all that…..
And yeah, maybe I could’ve gone any other time that the World’s were not going on, but it’s easier said than done when you live 5 hours away… I’ll be there in mid May, and who knows… Maybe mini-Bus will still be in, or maybe I’ll just be there for Kahuna & Waikiki for the third time…..
R.April 18, 2007 at 7:59 pm #25681bootParticipant
I am coming back to the Ottawa to paddle and it just happens to be right around that time…..Before returning back west for the summer….And I will be paddling the whole week I am there…Yes I will respect when the competition is going on to a point…But I am noy going to just not paddle bus the whole time I am there….Competition or not it is a public river and everyone has the right to be there……Id like to see someone try and say that any boaters are not allowed to paddle there….I will be boating there…and I invite anyone to call me an A%@hole or anythign else they care to call me….April 18, 2007 at 8:30 pm #25682BobbieParticipant"boot":ni4q7pmw wrote:I will be boating there…and I invite anyone to call me an A%@hole or anythign else they care to call me….[/quote:ni4q7pmw]
Hmmm… Y’know… Outdoor bouldering comps are usually in public parks….. I think the general rule is that if you’re gonna slime up the holds and peel off the sit-start 50 times, then what the hell are you doing anyways? If you’re gonna get on the V12 and send it, then sign up for the comp.
The corrollary to the World’s would be: If you’re gonna line up with the pros, you’d better be throwing some sick combos….. If you’re not at least gonna stick a donkey-flip every surf, maybe you shouldn’t be so self-righteous…..
I wanna surf Bussy, but I’m gonna try to have some respect for the best paddlers in the world…..
Registration extended to April 20th…
[url:ni4q7pmw]http://www.worldfreestylekayakingchampionships.com/competitors.php?page_id=23[/url:ni4q7pmw]April 18, 2007 at 8:48 pm #25683Ray-CParticipant
Keep in mind that the organizers have (it is my understanding) negotiated with the Hydro companies to adjust the release to bring Mini-Bus in at that time. Since they put in the footwork to get the wave in during that period, I think they respectfully deserve first dibs to it. Just give people a heads up on training schedules, etc.April 18, 2007 at 9:16 pm #25684sharkyParticipant
The world is coming to our back yard this week and surfing one of the best sections of whitewater that our blue planet has to offer. As Canadian hosts we are expected to put our best foot forward and deliver the best experience possible for the competing athletes.
Training times will be posted for athletes on the World’s Website on Friday. Recreational paddlers welcome to paddle outside those times. Team Training will start @ 8am and run till 5 pm, Monday to Saturday of next week.
I hope this helps with anyone looking to paddle buseaster. We’ve been working around the clock for 2 years now to ensure that we have the correct water level for the world championships. It’s incredible the red tape to cut through and the man hours it takes to control 1100 km of river with 44 hydro electric projects on it. Mother Nature has been co-operative thus far.
Thank you for all those who are here to support a great event and help build a bigger better international boating community.
Everyone is welcome to view the Championships for free. All are also invited to join 7 days of evening live entertainment at Wilderness Tours Resort in the evening.
If there are any questions feel free to email: email@example.com
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