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  • #3389
    Hipnazi
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    Checked out the Cascade in diferent sizes yesterday. Not impressed! Those rivets at the back of the neck are no longer likely to cut you but they still protrude quite a bit. In my case they aligned with the base of my skull and the soft area at the top of my neck. So I figured if I took at hit there I’m either getting two nice jabs leaving deep bruises or it’s the most vulnerable area of my upper neck taking the hit. Frankly I have way better coverage and more impact protection in this area from my FnA Bomber helmet.

    So it looks to me like the only way to get better coverage is to go with one of the face protector designs from FnA or the Lektor Protector.

    All the recommended helmets for better coverage, aside from the above mentioned aren’t any better than my Bomber. Some of them have better foam and impact resistance designs but for general coverage the choices are kind of slim.

    The Prijon Protecter looks to have great coverage but the expense of getting one here is pretty high. I’d be more likely to risk the expense if I could try one on at least.

    Bottomline is I’m looking for a helmet with ear, neck and temple coverage that can be mounted with a low profile face cage like the Predator Face Guard or the Face Guard designed for the Cascade.

    #24316
    harris
    Participant

    have you tried on a sweet rocker with the face guard? I hear it’s decent but also that there was some question of whether or not you can take the face guard off when you want to go without.

    I bought a trooper full cut this winter but haven’t paddled in it yet. Also i didn’t fall on my head skiing so other than being pretty comfortable I can ‘t say much other than the brand reputation.

    [img:1v2nt493]http://www.systemxkayak.co.uk/images_gear/Sweet_Protection/l_Rocker_Fullface_Red.jpg[/img:1v2nt493]

    #24317
    Hipnazi
    Participant

    I really dislike the idea of a huge permanent chin guard like that.

    I figure the cage is a compromise in safety if you consider it can catch on things.

    That large chin guard would be more likely to snag things than a lower profile wire frame.

    I have considered the Rocker with a Predator Wire Face Guard. Not sure if the fit will work.

    Hopefully Strano has the 2 things in stock so I can check this possibilty out.

    Thanks

    #24318
    Anonymous
    Participant

    Have you considered there’s nothing up there worth protecting? <img loading=” title=”Cool” />

    #24319
    Hipnazi
    Participant

    Probably genetic / hereditary

    #24320
    Boydo
    Participant

    Zing.. point Dax.

    #24321
    The Great Gonzo
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    "Hipnazi":18v2ofal wrote:
    Checked out the Cascade in diferent sizes yesterday. Not impressed! Those rivets at the back of the neck are no longer likely to cut you but they still protrude quite a bit. In my case they aligned with the base of my skull and the soft area at the top of my neck. So I figured if I took at hit there I’m either getting two nice jabs leaving deep bruises or it’s the most vulnerable area of my upper neck taking the hit. Frankly I have way better coverage and more impact protection in this area from my FnA Bomber helmet.

    So it looks to me like the only way to get better coverage is to go with one of the face protector designs from FnA or the Lektor Protector.

    All the recommended helmets for better coverage, aside from the above mentioned aren’t any better than my Bomber. Some of them have better foam and impact resistance designs but for general coverage the choices are kind of slim.

    The Prijon Protecter looks to have great coverage but the expense of getting one here is pretty high. I’d be more likely to risk the expense if I could try one on at least.

    Bottomline is I’m looking for a helmet with ear, neck and temple coverage that can be mounted with a low profile face cage like the Predator Face Guard or the Face Guard designed for the Cascade.[/quote:18v2ofal]

    Hipnazi, THE one helmet I recommed for you, since it goes so nicely with your name on this board, is the FNA Stormtrooper… :lol: …!

    Seriously though, one helmet that you might want to look into for fitting it with a Cascade wire cage is the Galasport G-Extreme. I have one that I use on the runs that push my limits or where the consquences of being upside down would be extremely unpleasant.
    http://www.galasportpaddles.com/index.p … 107&ct=cad
    The helmet offers great coverage, fit my head well without any fitting being necessary, does not move around on my head and attaching a Cascade face cage is really easy. It’s the helmet I used on our run down the Oxtongue last Fall. If you want to have a look at it or try iton, let me know. It’s usually somewhere in the back of my truck anyway.

    Cheers!

    TGG!

    #24322
    Hipnazi
    Participant

    Thanks Gonzo, I’ll look into that.

    Hey there Imaginary Guy your far more likely to be looking for me to throw you a rope or fish you out of a hole than Dax. But then again with not much to protect up there I just might not recognize that you need my help.

    #24323
    Bobbie
    Participant

    Yo G,

    You sound sorta bitter, but you actually have lots in common with the imaginary Boydo!

    For instance, you paddle a Dagger Nomad, and Boydo gave the Nomad an excellent review in the Fall 2006 Rapid Mag Creekboat review!

    You guys are like birds of a feather, or some sh*t like that :lol:

    R.
    [img:2dvio7ep]http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-9/1215330/37.jpg[/img:2dvio7ep]
    [img:2dvio7ep]http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-9/1215330/41.jpg[/img:2dvio7ep]

    My 2 cents on helmets…..

    I’ve taken bad hits a couple of times now (yes, yes, that explains everything), and each of those big hits brought me closer to one conclusion…..

    Neck injuries are probably far more of a concern than head injuries, and face stuff is just to keep you looking pretty.

    I think a good fitting WildWater plastic helmet and a mouth-guard would probably be just about as safe as anything else out there…..

    In fact, I’d be willing to bet 10-1 that a mouth guard would add more protection than any other crap beyond the helmet fitting well and having respectable coverage….. But nobody wants to wear a mouth-guard…..

    #24324
    cmnypny
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    "Bobbie":341zm7m6 wrote:
    In fact, I’d be willing to bet 10-1 that a mouth guard would add more protection than any other crap beyond the helmet fitting well and having respectable coverage….. But nobody wants to wear a mouth-guard…..[/quote:341zm7m6]

    I spoke to my dentist about a year ago. He said it is easier to get a concusion from your lower jaw hitting your upper jaw while doing sports.

    I got a custom formed mouth guard made up for about 100 bucks at the dentist. Real comfy to wear.

    I too am looking for a new helmet as my Protec one is now about 10 years old and would be interested in suggestions.

    signed,

    Not POBO even though Jenny thinks I am :!:

    #24325
    Hipnazi
    Participant

    Not Bitter. Just the facts maam!

    #24326
    The Great Gonzo
    Participant
    "Bobbie":2qq2rf89 wrote:
    Yo G,

    You sound sorta bitter, but you actually have lots in common with the imaginary Boydo!

    For instance, you paddle a Dagger Nomad, and Boydo gave the Nomad an excellent review in the Fall 2006 Rapid Mag Creekboat review!

    You guys are like birds of a feather, or some sh*t like that :lol:

    R.

    My 2 cents on helmets…..

    I’ve taken bad hits a couple of times now (yes, yes, that explains everything), and each of those big hits brought me closer to one conclusion…..

    Neck injuries are probably far more of a concern than head injuries, and face stuff is just to keep you looking pretty.

    I think a good fitting WildWater plastic helmet and a mouth-guard would probably be just about as safe as anything else out there…..

    In fact, I’d be willing to bet 10-1 that a mouth guard would add more protection than any other crap beyond the helmet fitting well and having respectable coverage….. But nobody wants to wear a mouth-guard…..[/quote:2qq2rf89]

    I read a statistic in a European paddling magazine a while ago (i will try to dig it out, hopefully I did not throw it away), and that showed that facial injuries amon paddlers are far more common than neck and other head injuries, probably due to the fact that the face is left unprotected with most helmets. Facial injuries can be pretty bad, a broken jaw or nose is quite serious, and a friend of mine lost almost an eye a few years ago after hitting a rock whil;e being upside down.
    All a mouth guard does is protect you mainly from getting a concussion.
    I’ll keep my Galasport with the face guard.

    TGG!

    #24327
    irwe
    Participant

    I have paddled with the G – extreme for the past 4 years and have been very happy with it.

    #24328
    Bobbie
    Participant
    "The Great Gonzo!":2q7cp3hr wrote:
    I read a statistic[/quote:2q7cp3hr]

    When they compiled their data, did they talk to lots of kayakers who’d had severe neck injuries or concussions while paddling?

    Umm… I’m saying that totally tongue-in-cheek….. <img loading=” title=”Confused” />

    #24329
    The Great Gonzo
    Participant
    "Bobbie":v118key4 wrote:
    "The Great Gonzo!":v118key4 wrote:
    I read a statistic[/quote:v118key4]

    When they compiled their data, did they talk to lots of kayakers who’d had severe neck injuries or concussions while paddling?

    Umm… I’m saying that totally tongue-in-cheek….. <img loading=” title=”Confused” />[/quote:v118key4]

    Whatever dude… :roll:
    It’s your face, not mine…

    TGG!

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