December 18, 2006 at 12:46 am #2953
me and Gonzo went looking for something new to run today after the gull. and scouted the ragged rapids on the black by washago and I was wondering if any one has run it before and is it as under cut as it looks ??? I’m definitely going to check it out at a lower water level ” title=”Razz” />December 18, 2006 at 1:48 am #22625ValParticipant
Are you talking about the fairgrounds set of rapids? Or is there another set near Washago that I know nothing about? If so, could you give me some directions?December 18, 2006 at 3:52 am #22626
no its not go down black river road u will cross a bridge over a creek with a nice long rapid probably class 3 or 4 don’t stop keep going to the next bridge and you will see a sweet canon run probably class 5+ theres 2 nice looking drops plus a green tung that seems to bank up the canon wall ” title=”Very Happy” /> and every thing gets constricted to maybe a 8 foot wide channel of foamy turbulence against what maybe a under cut rock?? to a ledge drop then wave train and boulders and huge boils I think thats itDecember 18, 2006 at 4:18 am #22627HipnaziParticipant
Issac by your description you are talking about Victoria Falls on the Black. Although I have not run or seen all of Ragged Rapids on the Black I do know that it isn’t roadside. We paddled a couple kms before getting to it on a canoe trip.
My topo shows Ragged to be nearly 1 kilometer south from the Black River Road. Victoria Falls is a few kilometers upstream and is directly south of the road and is somewaht visible from the iron road bridge. It falls thru a narrow, seived and undercut crevice. Probably drops between 30-40 feet, most of the gradient is in a slanted slot. Huge slabs and slanted rock, numerous cracks and really deep slots between these slabs. Sound like what you looked at?
I have little doubt about my willingness to run Victoria Falls, not a chance. You should see it in summer with no water. It is filled with places to wedge almost any size object you can think of. There are several places where water disappears under rock into drains or seives. Lots of wood jammed deep in every crack I could see.
My memory of this drop when I canoe tripped there was of a huge amount of water over a slide like rapid. I found the difference at low water to be very surprising. Going back a few years ago to see if my high water memory was accurate gave me a bit of a fright. It was hard to believe I was looking at the same drop.
I have heard that canoe trippers occasionally run Ragged Rapids at moderate to low flows.
I’d be curious to hear what you find out and to know more about this long class 3-4 creeky rapid beside the road. My topo shows a couple creeks in that area each looking like they might have some spring fun. Could be a good area for some roadside single drop creek fun.December 18, 2006 at 2:38 pm #22628The Great GonzoParticipant
Hipnazi, yes that’s exactly what we were looking at.
At this high level, we couldn’t really tell if there were any sieves in the top part of the steep crevice. Tons extremely turbulent and curling waves, it would be a real challenge to just stay upright. The bottom is where it gets really ugly, a lot of the current seems to push towards a what seems to be hugely undercut big rock on river right, and to avoid it one could have to ride up on a steep pillow on river left, which look close to impossible to me.
The water that disappears in the fold/hole at the bottom pillows back up about 25-30 ft further down. I definitely agree with you, definitely not for me to run it, but neat so see. I still want to check it out a low water levels though.
The creek isaac was mentioning is called Riley creek and it crosses Black River road. To get there just keep driving further along Black river road from Cooper falls, you will see the creek as the road crosses it. The rapid is on the south side of the road, steep, shallow and technical, flipping definitely not an option in there. We did not scout it for too long, as we were looking for ragged rapids, but I would thinks that it’s, particularly towards the bottom, more of a solid 4 than a 3-4.
TGG!December 18, 2006 at 2:39 pm #22629PhittyParticipant
Looks like a decent run but the rapids are too far apart. Looks like an open boat tandem option.
Some more pics here: http://www.geocities.com/gmccracken_ca/BlackRiver/December 19, 2006 at 4:44 am #22630
thanks for all the info ” title=”Very Happy” /> if ragged is only a km down stream it mite be worth paddling down and checking out? tie it in with that creek drop and it mite make for good day ?December 19, 2006 at 3:28 pm #22631The Great GonzoParticipant
Isaac, the run from Victoria Falls down through Ragged Rapids (Hipnazi actually wrot that the distance was 1km from ragged to the road and not from Victoria Falls to Ragged Rapids, I believe), but according to my Odometer the distance from Victoria Falls to where the river meets the road again is less than 4 km, so definitely worth checking out. Maybe in conjunction with a run down Riley Creek… ” title=”Cool” /> …
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