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  • #1979
    Jenny Right-Side
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    Last weekend I got into a friend’s C-1 and wanted to learn how to roll it.
    I had this awesome plan that if I could roll one, then I would be one of the top 10 female C-1ers in Canada!
    Problem is: I was completely confused and backwards when I flipped over.
    I was hip-snapping (t-rescue) style no problem and then moved on to having my friend hold the paddle out while I practised hip-snapping. I also understood that I needed to keep my forehead on the shaft (the PADDLE shaft) and the paddle blade down when rolling, but then when I went to do it on my own I had no idea where I was underwater, tried rolling up with the paddle on the wrong side and failed miserably.
    After about 40 minutes I decided to try again another time.
    Any 1-bladers out there who could pass on the “secret” tip that will change me from a flailing idiot on my knees to a rolling machine??
    Thanks!
    Jen

    #19157
    tarka
    Participant

    Hi,

    I’m an open boater recently turned C-1 er. Top 10 female C1ers in Canada? Are there even that many? I think I probably already am one and I just started last week. :wink:
    Anyway, hard to describe in words, but if you set up similarly to a kayak roll with your one blade next to the bow in your tuck while underwater, then let your body and paddle float to the top of the water – so you are basically lying on top of the shaft, on the surface, facing the bottom of the river. Non power face to the water. Hip flick (or knee flick) and think about throwing your head down to the bottom of the river. Don’t know if that helps. It’s the separation of hip flick and throwing your head down in the opposite direction which did it for me. I’m not perfect yet, but this is what works for me when I’m doing it exaclty right. I find it easier than a kayak roll. You can completely abandon the set up once you get your bearings , and just let your body and paddle float to the surface to set up.

    Fiona

    #19158
    Jenny Right-Side
    Participant

    Thanks Fiona!
    I will definately think about doing that next time I try it!
    My C1 friend is down at Potomacfest this weekend so I’ll have to get into his boat again next week!
    Jen

    #19159
    1-Blade
    Participant
    "Jenny Right-Side":35wbmtx7 wrote:
    Last weekend I got into a friend’s C-1 and wanted to learn how to roll it.
    I had this awesome plan that if I could roll one, then I would be one of the top 10 female C-1ers in Canada!
    Problem is: I was completely confused and backwards when I flipped over.
    I was hip-snapping (t-rescue) style no problem and then moved on to having my friend hold the paddle out while I practised hip-snapping. I also understood that I needed to keep my forehead on the shaft (the PADDLE shaft) and the paddle blade down when rolling, but then when I went to do it on my own I had no idea where I was underwater, tried rolling up with the paddle on the wrong side and failed miserably.[/quote:35wbmtx7]

    Jen, welcome to the Dark Side (sort of!). Your problem sounds exactly like mine. I was getting disoriented when I went completely under the boat. The way Bob Foote corrected it for me was to break it down into three parts:
    1. Bend forward at the waist until you are face-down on the front deck;
    2. Bring your paddle over to the side of the boat with the blade forward (right side of the boat for a lefty like me, other side of the boat for a righty). This also brings your body across and the boyancy of your PFD starts to tilt to boat;
    3. Swing the paddle and your body out to 90 degrees with your shaft hand (yes – the paddle shaft) on your forehead and the grip hand out in front of your belly button), power face up.

    Now you should be able to finish the roll with a good low brace. Don’t forget to keep looking at the paddle blade until you are completely up.

    #19160
    spencer
    Participant

    I agree with the others. When you are setting up, set up like a kayak roll, bring your paddle out to 90 degrees, and then bring it under you, instead of on top of you. Back deck rolls are also easy to do in a c1, you pretty much flip to the left (for a righty) then bring your paddle across the surface, and giv’er.

    Spencer

    #19161
    cboater
    Participant

    http://www.cboats.net – plenty o’ cboaters hang there <img loading=” title=”Smile” /> THere are a huge amount of threads on rolling a c1.

    You can roll it a couple ways – the best advice that I found helped me was to visualize that you need to pull the boat underneath your body. Peter describes the situation well – and when you’re about to do the low-brace up to the front deck you also concentrate on putting the boat underneath your chest – hard to describe, but when your body is floating perpendicular to the boat, and you’re ready to roll, it’s easier to know what I’m talking about…. this peice of advice helps me with the hip snap/ab crunch automatically..”bring the boat under the body”….

    As well, it’s a little more unconventional, and poo-pooed by a lot of folks, but it works for me sometimmes…. .you can actually do a kayak roll… Assume your onside is your right-side, jenny-right-side! After you flip you basically setup with the blade surface resting on the surface close to your front deck on your offside – T-grip near surface to on your left side… then you just do a single sweep and end up on your back deck.. stay nice and low… peice-o-cake… the only disadvantage is you’re much more unstable on your back deck as you’ll likely squirt, esp in current… but it still works <img loading=” title=”Smile” />

    Scott Macgregor described it to an extent in a rapid mag issue either 2-3 back (Feburary i think)….

    if you ever need a c1 martin at river run is always more than happy to let folks demo his shaggy c1’s and folks that paddle them cannot say enough positive things about them.

    Mike.

    #19162
    cboater
    Participant

    OH, I forgot to mention:

    Welcome to a whole new world of pain, hurt, and addiction <img loading=” title=”Very Happy” />

    #19163
    bryce
    Participant

    strano has a pretty cool c1 roll.

    it seems to be sort of a “hybrid” (as he calls it) of the two mentioned above.

    he starts with a back sweep (kayak like) roll and then half way though switches direction and ends in a low brace and ends up leaning forward like a more classic c1 roll.
    at least that is what it looks like to me. he may correct me if I am worng here.

    i’m going to give it a try soon.

    #19164
    cboater
    Participant

    Yeah, that’s the “Back Deck Roll” It’s the fastest roll possible – also IMO the hardest to nail/remember. But it’s great for hole-riding… i’ve never seen someone do it – but have heard that you can do it without getting your head wet… I have a lot of trouble with that one – not sure when to initiate the hip snap… It is *the* roll to master in C1 IMO – but hard to start off learning if you don’t have the traditional low-brace C-roll down.

    #19165
    Jenny Right-Side
    Participant

    Wow!
    Thanks for all the great info!
    I will definately check out all those references and give it a try when I get back into the C-1!
    Jen

    #19166
    spencer
    Participant

    I agree with Cboater, the backdeck is definatly the fastest way to get back up, and very easy, as long as you have a solid normal C1 roll.

    Spencer

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