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  • #4624
    patcamblin
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    hey there fellow boaters… writing this because i guess there has been some concern raised about the structure on river left at the bottom on the lorne.

    this inclosure has been a huge help to those that boat in the latter and early parts of the year, providing refuge from cold driving winds and adding an important element of safety to cold weather boating at buseater.

    joe k has been gracious enough to accommodate the requests from the locals who boat here during the extreme cold and has agreed to leave it up – so long as there isn’t an outcry from the rest of the boaters who frequent the ottawa.

    so, to those that spend time on the ottawa – does this structure take away from your experience of running the main channel? and if so, are you willing to accept its presence in the name of safety?

    thanks…
    patrick (and all the locals who boats buseater in the cold)

    #29542
    2T
    Participant

    Since I hate cold so much, I understand your plight and the need for a warm dry place when the wave is kicking and the weather is sort-of cooperating.

    That said, the structure on river left at the Lorne is an eyesore. If Joe K. was willing to make the investment needed to make it as attractive as other structures he’s erected along the river, I would not object. In its current state, I’d prefer it gone.

    Similarly, I would prefer to see the platform removed from the Lorne on river right. That one is uglier than the one on river left and in it’s open state, it does not provide shelter from wind and cold.

    Tamara

    #29543
    peterborough crew
    Participant

    Who cares, it is only a matter of time before the whole river is developed anyway. I would rather have run down shacks that anyone could use, then condos that only the elite can afford. And why does it matter if a building is there, if they made it nice a pretty would anyone complain. I never heard complaints about the buildings that went in by Garvin’s a few years back. If we are going to start taking things down along the side of the river, why don’t we start with the eyesore on river left of Coliseum.

    #29544
    mark.d
    Participant

    great idea to leave it up , the late fall paddling can get cold , just need a tv & satelite dish in it!

    #29545
    windowshade
    Participant

    Sheesh…, much ado about nothing!

    Paul <img loading=” title=”Cool” />

    #29546
    Kevin M
    Participant

    I think it should be taken down.

    I looks terrible. The last thing we need is more structures on the river.

    there are still a few places on the Ottawa that you can sit in your boat and not see a building.

    The is one upside to the building. The pro boaters can look at it and get a glimpse of what their future house will look like;)

    #29547
    The Great Gonzo
    Participant
    "Kevin M":1qmpmtuc wrote:
    I think it should be taken down.

    I looks terrible. The last thing we need is more structures on the river.

    there are still a few places on the Ottawa that you can sit in your boat and not see a building.

    The is one upside to the building. The pro boaters can look at it and get a glimpse of what their future house will look like;)[/quote:1qmpmtuc]

    For once I find myself agreeing with Kevin. That eyesore has got to come down.

    TGG!

    #29548
    h2sk1
    Participant
    "patcamblin":2yo0fjqt wrote:
    hey there fellow boaters… writing this because i guess there has been some concern raised about the structure on river left at the bottom on the lorne.

    this inclosure has been a huge help to those that boat in the latter and early parts of the year, providing refuge from cold driving winds and adding an important element of safety to cold weather boating at buseater.

    [/quote:2yo0fjqt]

    Eyesore – take it down.

    As for safety, bring a tarp and string it up during those cold days with driving wind. That’s what others do, and the blue tarp eyesore is removable at the end of your day.

    #29549
    Bobbie
    Participant

    Patrick,

    It’s cool that you’re being diplomatic, but it sucks that you even have to be…..

    I appreciated the structure (well, the stairs and landing) surfing Bus Eater in June… I can totally see how it would be great to have in March/April/May or October/November/December, and [b:2mm8byzk]I really hope it’s there when I paddle Bussy for the first time in the cold![/b:2mm8byzk]

    The way you and the locals throw down is THE reason that boats are the way they are, and the culture of advanced freestyle exists! [b:2mm8byzk]Sh*t, we should be asking you guys what’s best for the river and paddlers![/b:2mm8byzk]

    I like the structure, but that really doesn’t mean much… YOU like the structure, and that means a hell of a lot!

    And besides, like a lot of people have already pointed out, the shack doesn’t look much different from an old trapper’s cabin or hunting shack in the woods somewhere… It adds charm…..

    Development, no… Shack, yes…

    (Oh yeah… And these people who want it taken down… Do they bitch about the cottages on the Mag and other ‘wilderness’ runs? Maybe they do, but they don’t do anything about it… As far as I’m concerned the shelter at Bussy serves a greater purpose than most cottages, but people want you to take it down out of some ridiculous ‘principle’ that they can’t support 90% of the time when it matters, but the 10% of the time they can beat up on people, they will, just to make their little stink….. They should take down 9 cottages first…..)

    Looking forward to 14-17 any time of year,

    Rob.

    #29550
    Irishneil
    Participant

    Hey there folks, first of all the shelter is definetly needed as Pat pointed out, escaping the cold on those wintry days is a must.
    To all who thuink it is an eyesore get your eyes tested as its barely there and doesnt in any way take away from the river.
    Next there will be folk who feel that the trees take away from the views of the river so just get over it people!!!!!
    ps see yall out there soon!
    neilo

    #29551
    JamesGolick
    Participant

    Leave it there +1

    #29552
    Kevin M
    Participant

    Cottages are usally on private property.

    Isn’t this public land?

    Also there are already structures on River Right put there by wilderness and river run. shack is convenient because paddlers won;t have to cross the river to to use the existing structures. How long does is take you to paddle accross the river?

    Irish Neil can’t you see the difference between a tree and a shed?

    That thing looks nothing like a trappers cabin.

    Hey, I understand you guys want it there because it is more convenient for you. Great but remember, those same arguments can be used by other river users to help destroy the natural look of the river.
    It is more convenient to dam more rivers than conserve electricty.

    It will be difficult to argue against developlment on the river if you accept stuff like this.

    #29553
    esprit
    Participant

    Perhaps both groups could easily be satisfied by moving the shelter back away from the rivers edge into the woods where it would not act as an eyesore but could be used as shelter for cold weather paddling. It may not have as good a view of the wave…. but it would be much better for the viewscape from on the river.

    Anyone see why this wouldn’t work.

    jim

    #29554
    Phitty
    Participant

    Its a pretty rickety shelter as well. Knock it down in May, put it back up in October. Not more than an afternoon’s work for a crew of unemployed paddlers or raft guides.

    #29555
    Bobbie
    Participant
    "esprit":31mtke74 wrote:
    Perhaps both groups could easily be satisfied by moving the shelter back away from the rivers edge into the woods where it would not act as an eyesore but could be used as shelter for cold weather paddling.[/quote:31mtke74]

    I like that idea, but as far as I can remember moving the shelter back would kinda put it in the river….. Is the island really wide enough?

    Why not just throw some duck-blind camo over it :lol:

    Am I the only one who thinks it’s kinda cool when you’re running the Lorne to look up and see the place where pros (or maybe you) hung out when having epic days on Bus Eater…..? Quite frankly, I think it’ll make you a better paddler to look up at that shelter and give it some respect…..

    Pat never shoulda brought this up….. It’s not like people were posting all over the board to get it taken down… Seems to me this wasn’t even an issue until people had something new to whine about :roll:

    Seriously, whoever doesn’t like it should pay for the duck camo….. Or volunteer to take it down and put it up every year….. Or rebuild it according to their acceptable specifications….. Or just go back to whining about whatever they were whining about before this got brought up, and pretend like it was never mentioned….. :lol:

    R.

    Oh yeah… The mocking of unemployed raft guides and pro boaters is getting kinda tired….. Here’s me… I have a good job in the city, and I can’t Airscrew… So I don’t need to worry that I can’t Airscrew, ‘cuz I have a steady income? No, there aren’t two scales by which to measure your paddling mojo….. You can Airscrew on Bussy or you can’t, and if you have a good job that’s just fan-f*ing-tastic for you….. It’s not "Patrick can throw down huge, but he doesn’t earn 100k, so I’m just as cool as him….." Nope, it’s just plain "Patrick can throw down something huge, and the rest of us clowns are damn good at inventing ego uplifting excuses."

    Mocking pro boaters for their lack of income does not make one cool….. What it makes is a public display of one’s own insecurities :lol:

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