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  • #2848
    fatboy
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    a few of us paddler’s in london are thinking of starting a kayak club and i was thinking this would be a good place to get some feedback from other established clubs and/or paddlers that have been involved in an outdoor type club. here are some topics to be discussed:

    – pool sessions= check
    – meetings-mthly/bi-mthly?
    – planning trips
    – organising instruction
    – fees
    – newsletter’s
    – club gear

    #22095
    Peter Karwacki
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    Your membership in Whitewater Ontario.

    also I am planning on applying for the next go around, club development funding for prospective clubs in ontario to improve access to the sport, develop leadership in ontario whitewater, to enhance river preservation activities and many more reasons.

    A club membership is a nominal fee and reduces individual membership costs.

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    #22096
    cmnypny
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    Our Barrie club [url:1vrywlek]http://www.bckc.ca[/url:1vrywlek] has been around for ages and has formal policies, insurance etc. You need CYA from a legal perspective against potential law suits, etc.

    Colin

    #22097
    heardman
    Participant

    Im a member of the new club at Carleton University, and i also have my level 1 kayak instuctor. It was brought to my attention from others that because i am certified if there is an accident on a river with a club member when i am present, i can be held liable, or partly responsiblility. Does anybody know the general rule of thumb with this? If we don’t call it a club outing does it still count?

    Also im not one of the organizers of the club just a member, does that make a difference? Im pretty sure the club doesn’t have a waiver yet, its been pretty informal as of yet, just want to cover myself in case of a accident.

    #22098
    Hipnazi
    Participant

    Regardless of your Instructor status or the complete lack of it liabilty is always lurking. Sanctioned club outing or not still there lurking.

    The test in law is, in the event of an accident were all parties involved acting with due diligence and duty of care. If so third party liabilty is of little or no consequence.

    If some sort of negligence is proven and it is clearly beyond the definition of due diligence and duty of care then some one is likely going to be held responsible.

    Thus far in Ontario there has been no instance inside or outside of organized paddling groups where someone has been held responsible for anothers paddling accident.

    Hopefully by being aware and staying within our skills we can keep it that way.

    Make sure you understand your clubs insurance policy and keep your Instructor training up to date and most importantly use every resource you can find to understand what due diligence and duty of care means. These 2 concepts are featured heavily in Whitewater Ontario Instructor Training.

    #22099
    heardman
    Participant

    Thanks Hipnazi, very informative!

    #22100
    mcayouette
    Participant

    Yeah I think our next move here at Carleton University Kayak Club will be to join WO!!

    I am glad fatboy brought it up!

    #22101
    Kyle T
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    "heardman":yhmf0m3r wrote:
    Im a member of the new club at Carleton University, and i also have my level 1 kayak instuctor. It was brought to my attention from others that because i am certified if there is an accident on a river with a club member when i am present, i can be held liable, or partly responsiblility. Does anybody know the general rule of thumb with this? If we don’t call it a club outing does it still count? [/quote:yhmf0m3r]

    "Hipnazi":yhmf0m3r wrote:
    The test in law is, in the event of an accident were all parties involved acting with due diligence and duty of care. If so third party liabilty is of little or no consequence.

    If some sort of negligence is proven and it is clearly beyond the definition of due diligence and duty of care then some one is likely going to be held responsible.[/quote:yhmf0m3r]

    I am not a lawyer, and this is not legal advice.

    According to my limited (layman’s) understanding, you might well be held to a higher standard of care because of your certification, particularly if you are perceived to be in some sort of instructional/leadership role.

    #22102
    Peter Karwacki
    Participant

    Read the information: it will make you feel "better"

    Insurance is not the answer, for no insurance will protect you from negligence.

    [b:2e8tzdat]Risk Management in Six Steps
    By Will Leverette[/b:2e8tzdat]
    Published in American Whitewater January/February 2001
    Editor’s Note: Will Leverette is the Risk Management Department Director for the Worldwide Outfitter and Guide Association, International Special Event and Recreation Association, and Prime Insurance Syndicate. Will also does risk management consulting through his company, ARMOR, the Affiliation of Risk Managers for Outdoor Recreation. More importantly from our perspective, Will is the Whitewater Paddling Coach for Warren Wilson College. Will can be contacted at 353 Buckeye Cove Road, Swannanoa, NC 28778, Phone: 828-298-6920 Fax: 828-298-7492.

    Many of American Whitewater’s members are also river guides or instructors and several own companies. This article is primarily directed towards protecting the outfitters from liability litigation. However, we think this information will be of general interest to our members and volunteers who help with events, races, and other activities. Liability and litigation are ever-increasing facets of river management and use and its good to be aware of trends in risk mitigation.
    Introduction
    A large part of the success of any risk management plan is the understanding, simplification, and implementation of a program that actually gets used by everyone in the organization.
    Many levels of complexity and detail can be utilized, but the essential basics are fairly simple. Based on my examination of dozens of lawsuits against outfitters and the results of conducting hundreds of risk management consultations, a few instructive lessons are apparent. This process has given me the opportunity to identify the most critical factors that could hurt or help in the event an outfitter is faced with frivolous litigation.
    The following comprises a list of these important risk management tools that most outfitters would benefit from using:
    [b:2e8tzdat]I. Develop Redundant System to Share Warnings and Other Information [/b:2e8tzdat]
    Develop a means to prove that guests were adequately warned and informed. This avoids claims that, “My client was not adequately warned and informed, and therefor did not know what s(he) was getting intoâ€

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