July 27, 2006 at 1:25 pm #2061
Last night I had 2 kayaks stolen. My Dragorossi Squashtail. This is a unique boat. its the ONLY Yellow squashtail in the world, AND it has a RED testarossa seat – also the only one. 2nd, my Murky Waters composite Nightmare was also stolen, also yellow with a red seat. This boat is also unique.
After spending all day walking every street and alley in Verdun, I found the boats and the thieves… but they were big and mean looking guys. So I identified the address [332 1ere ave just in case anyone else gets boats stolen), hid in the bushes and called 911. I called the police when we saw the boats on the porch, in plain view, but by the time the police arrived (30 mins later, after 3 calls) the boats and the people were gone. I was not about to get stabbed in order to follow them in plain view, so the best I could do was wait for the police to arrive.
The “official” word from the police, after that knocked on the door and politely asked if they had any stolen kayaks there, was “We didn’t catch them red handed, so there is nothing we can do”. The concept that if they had arrived within 5 mins after the first call they WOULD have caught the thieves, seemed to escape them.
So… First of all, BE AWARE. DO NOT leave you kayaks on or in your car in Verdun. If your kayaks are stolen, this is most likely the address where you’ll find them – for a few hours anyway. Secondly, please put the word out that if someone approaches you to sell you kayaks cheap, that you CALL THE POLICE and DO NOT try to stop the guys or even mention that you know they are stolen. Get a licence plate if you can.
So, that’s todays good news. Pass the word around to all kayakers.
CorranJuly 27, 2006 at 5:50 pm #19365Jenny Right-SideParticipant
Bummer Corran that is terrible news.
Hope you get your boats backJuly 27, 2006 at 5:59 pm #19366
The fact that you could identify the fellows and the address didn’t seem to phase the fuzz.
They could all be in cahoots… or it is in fact true that the tough guys, apparently part of a more organized fencing ring could plead their word against yours… unless someone else could corroborate.
I feel your pain.
One of society’s principle dilemmas is how to deal with its antisocial, criminal wings.July 27, 2006 at 7:13 pm #19367Capn CrunchParticipant
Perhaps Peter this is an new strategy to deny access that we haven’t considered?July 27, 2006 at 7:57 pm #19368pgParticipant
A freind in Thunder Bay here had the same great police responce…..He also found out the boats location but the police only knocked on the door and left it at that…….kinda sad.July 27, 2006 at 8:40 pm #19369
One approachat prevention is to make your boats look like they belong to somebody, like having your name and phone number clearly visible. Branded into the Hull with a soldering iron.
Also consider sliding down hill in a gravel pit, to mark up the bottom.
This above all else will discourage “steal and fence” cash raising schemes.
Once upon a time, boats were rare and boaters more rare but the growth and proliferation of the sport has attracted these baser elements.
My guess is that these n’er do wells also happen to carry all the necessary tools to part you from your pristine boats: hack saw, and bolt cutters.
The only defense is to make the boat an unattractive fence item, by defacing it yourself, as unappealing as that sounds.
I can’t think of anything else that fits under the category of “prevention”. I too would run for cover faced with a couple of Verdun’s finest, packin heat, brass knuckles, pipe, baseball bats and other tools of persuasion of choice.
I can also see why the police wouldn’t want to upset them.
PeteJuly 27, 2006 at 10:32 pm #19370Ray-CParticipant"Peter Karwacki":f1xm9zod wrote:My guess is that these n’er do wells also happen to carry all the necessary tools to part you from your pristine boats: hack saw, and bolt cutters.[/quote:f1xm9zod]
Or they can just do what they did to my girlfriend and I when we stopped for lunch on St. Denis this spring: steal the whole car. Except with us, it was snowboarding gear inside (among other things).
Montreal & Vancouver are super bad for car theft (port cities make it easy to chop and ship). If your gear happens to be attached or inside, it just makes it a bonus for them.July 27, 2006 at 10:37 pm #19371PhittyParticipant
Tellme about it. We had our Toyota stolen last weekend at St Sauveur.
What a pain in the arse.
P.July 28, 2006 at 2:04 am #19372
Good news… I have them back!
It was a long process, but basically it involved staking out the place. Oliver Languedoc helped me out, and we watched the house from and back. They moved the boats eventaully from the address I gave to another house a few doors down…. basically very drugged out, ghetto looking bad ass -yomathafucka’s that I wouldn’t want to meet in a dark alley. As soon as they did this and we knew the boats were inside, we called the police and watched the house front and back. They spotted us, and before long some more “yo dudes” in suped up Civics and a Blazer were crusing past us giving us the evil eye. I thought we were going to ahve to call it a loss and quit before someone got attacked, but then finally the police showed up. They spent some time in “negotiations” with the guy who opened the door, and finally he gave up the goods, claiming someone had “left them there for safe keeping”.
Whatever…. its a very sketchy part of town, these guys are obviousy serious drug users and petty criminals by trade/default, and I got my boats and get to paddle again this summer, so I’m stoked.
Anyway, thanks to Oliver for his help in the “stake out”.
Word on the street from talking to the other drugged out members of this booming community is that the local punks have figured out that kayaks are worth money, and are specifically looking for kayaks to steal, so if you’re in the verdun area of Montreal, DO NOT leave your kayaks in/on your car or even in your yard. Lock them inside your place.
So… back to boating ” title=”Wink” />
CorranJuly 28, 2006 at 2:07 am #19373DannyBoyParticipant
Thats awesome Corran. If I ever meet ya, I’ll buy a beer.July 28, 2006 at 11:42 am #19374Jenny Right-SideParticipant
I’m due for a Montreal trip sometime soon (wanna add Lachine to the list)July 28, 2006 at 12:17 pm #19375MartynParticipant
I’m glad you got your boats back. The really sad thing about them getting stolen isn’t so much the drugged out losers in Verdun stealing them. If they have figured out the boats are worth something, that means other boaters must be supporting this kind of thing by buying stolen boats.
[quote:1vtcd0sh]Word on the street from talking to the other drugged out members of this booming community is that the local punks have figured out that kayaks are worth money, and are specifically looking for kayaks to steal, [/quote:1vtcd0sh]
MartynJuly 28, 2006 at 12:22 pm #19376
Anyone buying my Nightmare was going to me in for a nasty experience…. with a 4″ lit on the seat, kelar laminated into place, no one but I can fir in it, let alone stay upright and roll it. Seen several pro paddlers swim out of it in the eddy ” title=”Wink” />
CorranJuly 28, 2006 at 2:06 pm #19377
“They spent some time in “negotiations” with the guy who opened the door, and finally he gave up the goods, claiming someone had “left them there for safe keeping”.
well if that is law enforcement, we’re all in big trouble.
I get worse for parking on the street for three hours or more, or driving 10 kph over the limit.
Who is in charge over there in Verdun?July 29, 2006 at 12:27 am #19378HawkeyeParticipant
“possession of stolen property”
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